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Monday, May 19, 2008

East vs West

In Philadelphia...They appear to discipline and fire officers who beat suspects after they have been restrained.

In Seattle...
They promote them and spend millions each year on a no-bid contract to defend them in court.

I wonder which approach does more to restore trust and goodwill between police officers and the public?

I also wonder which is more cost effective for taxpayers in the long run?


Anonymous said...

If these animals would stop shooting each other, then maybe the cops would not be scared to the point of beating them. No one else has the balls to subdue armed men.

Packratt said...

Thank you for posting your comment. However, I feel it necessary to point out that these so-called "animals" are human beings and there was no weapon found, thus they were not armed while they were restrained and then beaten.

I wonder who has more fear of whom, the cops of the citizens or the citizens of the cops?

...more importantly, how do such unrestrained beatings help stop that spiraling dynamic of fear?

Anonymous said...

"scared to the point of beating them"

Yeah, let's beat those niggers (oh, sorry, "animals") and save the taser for the white 16 year old and 82 year old.

* Honor
* Courage

Do not apply to police who are "scared to the point of beating them." If nothing else I wouldn't follow that up by saying they're the only ones with the "balls to subdue armed men."

Pick a side.

Are members of the SPD generally brave? If so, do you really think using excessive force the only acceptable way to display it? I've never heard of a firefighter beating the hell out of a 16 year old kid for playing with matches.

Packratt said...

Thanks for the comment.

Sheesh, yeah, those two stories sure do exemplify courage.. tasing a 16 year old having an epileptic fit and an 82 year old man tethered to an oxygen mask. It sure does take some balls to try and justify it at least, I guess.

As for that racist who justifies police brutality by calling their victims animals...

Too many things come to mind, unfortunately... because I know how it feels to be treated like less than an animal by the police. And I can only hope that if people understood just how that felt and what that does to a person that they wouldn't say or think such things.

...but I know I'm just being too naive and hopeful in that.

Again, thanks for the comment.

Anonymous said...

Another win for the east! Well, sorta. How he was let off from charges of violating his oath as a public officer I don't know...

Packratt said...

Thanks for the comment, and yes, I'd say that's a "sorta" win, especially with some of the extra information (per The Agitator) that came out of that trial.

It really seems like a systemic problem exacerbated by policies that require x number of drug busts per officer per month that drove them to do some really questionable and downright illegal things.

That story and it's implications is the stuff of pure nightmares, it should outrage anyone who's followed it as it illustrates just how easily that could happen to any of us and what extent some police officers would go to in order to cover up for a botched raid.

Seriously, that case disturbs me to no end and should illustrate how the drug war is racking up too much collateral damage among the citizenry.

Thanks again for the comment!

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